[lbo-talk] Torture Re: Nietzsche: Free will

andie nachgeborenen andie_nachgeborenen at yahoo.com
Mon Jun 11 09:50:00 PDT 2007


And what's wrong with "backward looking"? Would you dare say to a victim of torture that her concern with the past is a "bore"? That's why I don't believe you actually think this evil claptrap; you're a decent guy, so you reflexively abhor the deliberate imposition of unwanted pain involved in retribution and you have the usual elite radiclib distaste for the howling mob and its bloodlust, so you think that you are superior to revenge. But you're not, really.

It might be sort of amusing if capitalist slimeballs could exiled to a luxury resort, but most of them are just greedy, not evil. You keep dodging around the point. I was talking about _torturers_, people who are guilty of conscious, deliberate, appalling evil. You are talking about the Prez of DePaul, who is merely weak, or capitalists, who are merely avaricious. But it was NOT best that Dr. Mengele lived out his days in peace and comparative luxury in Brazil. That was a terrible injustice.


> What I said. A revolutionary regime (not just "the
> leaders") must
> maintain popular support during the very difficult
> early days. For
> future reference: it's _best_ if this does not
> incorporate retribution.
> I don't know much about Trotsky, but I read
> somewhere that he claimed
> that in a u.s. revolution the socialist regime would
> be safe enough so
> that it could exile all the big capitalists to a
> luxury resort island.
> Retribution is _so_ backward looking. A bore.
>
> Carrol
>
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