[lbo-talk] Time Use studies

Tayssir John Gabbour tayssir.john at googlemail.com
Mon Mar 26 05:09:24 PDT 2007


On 3/26/07, Andy F <andy274 at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 3/25/07, Tayssir John Gabbour <tayssir.john at googlemail.com> wrote:
> > All right, the corporation doesn't just own her output but hours of
> > her life too. But if coworkers goofed off as much as her, hanging by
> > the water fountain or watching Youtube, and that's accepted... then
> > doesn't her firing kind of illustrate the point?
>
> I don't mean to suggest that it's right and proper that he got fired ,
> but boasting about writing a book on company time undermines his claim
> that it was retaliation for some sort of ideological whistleblowing.
> Besides, writing a book requires more time than watching the odd
> Youtube clip. I only know his side of the story, too, so when he
> *still* comes across as flaky, well...

That could be the case. But I personally think there's a serious ideological conflict between workplace hours and results.

For example, some high-profile people in my industry admit to what "I've known all along," that they spent on average like 2-3 hours a day actually coding. Some guilt-filled weeks it's more like 0. The rest of the workplace time, they putter around, paying credit card bills, commenting on forums, maybe coding Free Software, etc. But despite that, they apparently get the job done because overall productivity is what counts. Not hours. <http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000339.html>

Parts of the industry, particularly gaming, are notorious for "deathmarches"... and I keep hearing that this is largely a macho practice where severe inefficiencies abound. Some people actually seem well suited to crazy hours, but most people?

Admittedly, I don't know many other industries in depth. Andie's comments surprised me, about high-paid lawyers working 8am-11pm, 7 days/week. And I was also surprised to hear (from the wife of Battlestar Galactica's co-developer):

"Have you ever been on a movie set?

"I have, and I have seen some insane working conditions. I have

seen grips and electricians in EXTREMELY dangerous

conditions. Before I was in the union, i worked on non union shows

that shot for 18 hours each day. I have known workers who have

been killed in the execution of their jobs. I have watched crews

getting in their cars at 7am after working all night, to drive

home for two hours. I have know of a couple who have been killed

that way. I have seen actors and extras standing outside soaking

wet in near freezing temperatures or sweltering heat, in dust

storms, for 14 hours. I have seen poor sanitary conditions and not

enough food for people trapped in a distant location. I have

watched the drivers exist day after day on only a few hours sleep,

I have seen members of my team drop from exhaustion as they did

the work of ten people. I have spit up gobs of dirt for days after

shooting in wiondstorms and have been to the hospital after

equipment fell on me becuse we were shooting a film as a hurricane

approached, but the producers wouldn't stop shooting.

"People die and get seriously hurt on film sets every year.

"Never seen a paper cut on set."

<http://forums.scifi.com/index.php?showtopic=2266085&st=0>

That's just fucked up. So I clearly dunno what other peoples' jobs are like. I strongly wish to hear more.

But if the author of _Disciplined Minds_ got job his done well, and was fired for telling the truth about his profession... I kinda view it as an ideologial firing. Writing an honest book which gave me advice I even happened to use last week. I wish more people would do that.

Incidentally, when I worked food service, I never had time to write some book during work. "If you have time to lean, you have time to clean." Fastfood people make burger after burger after burger, or repeat phrases like "Would you like fries with that?" And that's probably better than nightmare stories (dunno if they're true) of people whose job entirely consists of making the same cut on the same part of a dead food animal over and over again.

Tayssir



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