[lbo-talk] How to explain things to (right-wing) libertarians

andie nachgeborenen andie_nachgeborenen at yahoo.com
Thu Mar 29 11:55:15 PDT 2007


This is rubbish. Libs are not the KKK and they are not "piles of poop." They are often _on our side._ They are anti-fascist, antimilitarist, anti-interventionist, pro-abortion rights. They are often cranky (unlike leftists!) and sometimes dogmatic. Often they are very smart. In my view they are right about many things. They have produced a really impressive body of philosophical and economic scholarship. I'd way rather talk to a lib than to a mainstream Bushie con or a sectarian leftie. You don't expect to convert them, but you might learn something and maybe cooperate.

--- Steve Palmer <spalmer999 at yahoo.com> wrote:


> Why waste time talking to libertarians?
> Are you trying to convert them?
> To 'win' an argument?
> To 'understand them'?
>
> If I see a pile of poop on the sidewalk, I don't
> jump in it and roll about, I
> step round or over it and keep right on to where I'm
> going.
>
> Poop's just poop.
> Even when it comes out of a libertarian's mouth.
>
> What's next? 'How to explain things to the KKK'?
>
> Steve
>
> --- Tayssir John Gabbour
> <tayssir.john at googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> > "How To Explain Things to Libertarians"
> > Chris Clarke February 23rd, 2007
> >
>
<http://pandagon.net/2007/02/23/how-to-explain-things-to-libertarians/>
> >
> > Eventually, it happens to all of us. You'll be
> talking to someone,
> > online or in person, who seems completely normal.
> Then all of a
> > sudden, out of nowhere, the person will say
> something really weird,
> > like "You can't fix a problem like underpaid
> public school teachers by
> > just throwing money at them!" or "Why do they need
> tax-funded traffic
> > lights at this corner? All the cross-traffic's
> already stopped, which
> > shows the Free Market works!" or "Hitler was a
> Communist! They called
> > themselves the 'National Socialists' for a
> reason!"
> >
> > You, my friend, have just made the unpleasant
> discovery that you've
> > been talking to a Libertarian.
> >
> > [...]
> >
> >
> > Tayssir
> >
> > --
> > (Incidentally, the first known use of the
> political term "libertarian"
> > was in 1857 by a French anarcho-communist. In
> 1955, right-wingers in
> > the US co-opted the term, in response to the
> Progressive movement
> > co-opting "liberal." This fact tends to pacify
> right-wing libertarians
> > when they start grumbling that liberalism means
> something else.)
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