[lbo-talk] How to explain things to (right-wing) libertarians

[Carl Remick]

>From: Michael Pollak <mpollak at panix.com>
>
>It was from the mid-nineties that socialists in general, and Debs in
>particular, became his organization's main competition, and his rhetoric
>became anti-socialist (and anti-immigrant), and his tactics became more
>collaborationist.  Ironically of course the emergence of the socialists was
>one of the two things that made such tactics possible.  It was only when
>there was something scary to his left, and Progressives in power, that big
>business and the government wanted to embrace him as part of their "third
>way."

Aha.  That squares with my original point that "any kind of successful 
bargaining is to *start* from an extreme, unreasonable, uncompromising 
position."  Without the socialists taking an extreme, unreasonable, 
uncompromising position, Gompers and his AFL would have been ignored by 
government and business.

Carl

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