[lbo-talk] Bonobo you don't

[Jerry Monaco]

On 5/1/07, Carrol Cox <cbcox at ilstu.edu> wrote:
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> Jerry Monaco wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 4/30/07, James Heartfield <Heartfield at blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: [clip]
> > >
> > The following speaks volumes about the pessimistic underpinning to your
> > > failure to understand the unique character of human civilisation:
> > >
> > > "For most of the history of homo sapiens we lived as hunter gatherers.
> > > "Civilization" is a relatively recent phenomena.  It is too soon to
> know
> > > whether what we call civilization will be a success for our species or
> > > not. But that is just my pessimistic conclusion, which is neither
> > > here nor there in this debate.  I don't know if the human species
> > > will last a very long time."
> > >
> > > Well, talk about biting the hand that feeds you! Seriously Jerry, you
> owe
> > > your existence, as I owe mine to this "recent phenomenon"
> >
> > What in the world are you saying?   What does this have to do with the
> > question?  Why are you saying this?  The question was, questions that
> you
> > have not answered:
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> The question James is answering in the affirmative is "Can the human
> species thrive while 6 billion of them drive luxury automobiles?" You
> are contemptuous of human possibility for suggesting a negative answer.
>
> Carrol

No  Carrol, James said the following:

James" "Who would you like to put to the slaughter first?
Let's start with the jews, or maybe gypsies."

This kind of accusation is simply unacceptable.  It is disgusting.  I will
not participate in a conversation where this kind of rhetoric is considered
o.k.

My point was about the survival of our species, which is a matter for
healthy pessimism and does not necessarily refer to global warming.

Jerry

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