>On Nov 8, 2007, at 6:50 PM, Carrol Cox wrote:
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>>Joanna is probably correct here, but still I think it best for  
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>>reasons always to emphasize systemic elements rather than individual
>>criminality.
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>On some level I agree with you, but most people don't get this  
>systemic stuff. They only get individual criminality. I say that from  
>more than 20 years of experience in trying to talk systemically.  
>People get bored. They want to hear about thugs and scumbags.
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>Doug
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When did I ever say it was individual and not systemic?
Joanna
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