[lbo-talk] BERLIN ALEXANDERPLATZ

[wrobert at uci.edu]

Ultimately, the translation is going to lose of the meaning contained in
the pun.  I think that the translators were smart to realize that the
literal meaning was less important than the references contained in the
word.  Coincidentally, I agree with everyone that the movie is beautiful. 
I'd put it up there with Renoir's The Rules of the Game.  robert wood


> No matter what the translation, it's not possible to render the
> perfectly oxymoronic idiom which means at one and the same time:
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> Children of Paradise
> Children of the cheap upper balcony seats
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> Joanna
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> Shane Mage wrote:
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>>Charles Grimes wrote:
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>>>Jean Renoir's Children of Paradise manages some great narrative
>>>parallels matched to the kind of visual symmetries I am thinking of...
>>>
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>>Marcel Carn´e, not Jean Renoir.  Perhaps no film as great has ever
>>been made with fewer resources and under worse (Occupation)
>>conditions.
>>By the way, a more idiomatic (English) translation of *Les Enfants du
>>Paradis* would be "Children of The Gods." Does anyone know of an
>>American idiom for "rear-balcony seats?"
>>
>>Shane Mage
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>>"This cosmos did none of gods or men make, but it always was and is
>>and shall be: an everlasting fire, kindling in measures and going out
>>in measures."
>>
>>Herakleitos of Ephesos, fr. 30
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