On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 19:25:05 -0700 joanna <123hop at comcast.net> writes:
> Michael wrote
>
> >Probably. The big Jewish organizations who run the anti-semitic
> noise
> >machine have all given christian fundamentalists a pass on this
> idea that
> >Jews will have to convert in order to be saved. It's the sine non
> qua of
> >the zionist/fundie alliance which is now a very solid thing.
> Extremists
> >on both sides even joke and laugh about it when it's pointed out.
> They
> >say "We've agreed to disagree on that -- and we both agree that
> when the
> >Messiah comes, one of us is going to be very surprised." It's
> actually a
> >kind of fascinating example of how mutual toleration is sometimes
> possible
> >even among mutual extremists.
> >
> Yes, formerly, the zionists were in also in accord with Hitler. They
>
> both agreed that assimilation was not possible and that emigration
> was
> the only solution. Until 1941 (I believe) the zionist flag was the
> only
> flag you could put up in Germany, other than the swastika.
> We all know what happened there.
>
>
At various times and places, Zionism has drawn support, sometimes enthusiastic, from anti-Semites. That was true a century ago, when Theodor Herzl's proposal for a Jewish state drew support from the notorious French anti-Semitic agitator, Edouard Drumont. In fact, Herzl went out of his way to deliberately attempt to drum up support for his scheme from anti-Semitic politicians and intellectuals. Basically, he offered them the prospect of a Europe that would be free of Jews.
Some of the top Nazis, as writers like Hannah Arendt noted, were, at least for a while, (prior to the regime's opting for the "Final Solution") partial to proposals for solving the "Jewish problem" through the creation of a Jewish state to which European Jews would be forcibly deported to. Arendt in her *Eichmann in Jerusalem* made note of Eichmann's claims to be an admirer of Herzl.
In more recent times, certain contemporary anti-Semites have become very pro-Israel. The extreme right French politician, Jean-Marie Le Pen is both an anti-Semite, who is openly skeptical of the Holocaust, and a strong supporter of Israel. In the US, there are elements of the Christian right who manage to hang on to their traditional anti-Semitism, while being strongly supportive of Israel, which they see as playing an essential role in the Last Times. One thinks of Pat Robertson, who on the one hand, seems to think that there is a cabal of Jewish financiers who are scheming to take over the world, but who, nevertheless, has long been a strong supporter of Israel. And was even honored for his support by the Zionist Organization of America, several years ago. (http://www.zoa.org/2002/07/zoa_to_honor_pa.htm)
>
> Joanna
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