[lbo-talk] GM-UAW agreement

3.3.3. lslelel at gmail.com
Wed Sep 26 09:45:00 PDT 2007


This a broad question to ask, but are the loss in US heavy manufacturing pretty jobs close to what has happened in Western Europe? Apologies if that sounds dumb, just looking for equivalences...

On 9/26/07, Lenin's Tomb <leninstombblog at googlemail.com> wrote:
> On 9/26/07, Doug Henwood <dhenwood at panix.com> wrote:
> >
> > It is a serious question, one to which I don't know the answer. And
> > your answer is so at odds with the state of political consciousness
> > and organization in the U.S. that it never leaves the realm of
> > fantasy. I just posted an article on how miners in Utah are arguing
> > against tighter safety regulations. That is the state of political
> > consciousness in the U.S. today. C'mon over and help us out.
>
>
> I appreciate the point, and notice that I am not moralising about it
> ("betrayal" and so on). I am saying that the deal is actually fairly poor,
> and we have to see it for what it is. The only way that workers in America
> will get a better deal is if they recover traditions of mass solidarity and
> combativity that have long been submerged and destroyed by, I dunno,
> anticommunism, FBI subversion, and cooptation. It can happen, I'm sure.
> But don't think I'm coming over there to bang my head against that wall in
> person.
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