[lbo-talk] post analytical Marxist era/ post liberal era

andie nachgeborenen andie_nachgeborenen at yahoo.com
Wed Sep 26 20:05:18 PDT 2007


Well, I am a socialist as well as a liberal, so I agree that the best _social order_ involves a right to a job or income. You can call that a political right if you want, there are arguments to be made for doing so, although I don't call it political but social and economic myself; but whatever terms you use we agree that a right to a job or income is a real right. Btw, Milton Friedman thought it was, if not a right, then sound policy.

--- Charles Brown <charlesb at cncl.ci.detroit.mi.us> wrote:


> andie nachgeborenen :
>
> "Political liberalism is the view that the best
> form of government
> involves universal suffrage, competitive
> elections, and extensive
> political and civil liberties."
>
>
> ^^^^^
> CB: We now know that the political liberal view is
> fundamentally
> deficient. The best form of government involves
> GUARANTEE OF A RIGHT
> TO A JOB OR INCOME, universal suffrage, competitive
> elections, and
> extensive political and civil liberties. The "best
> form of government"
> you describe fails to take account of the thinking
> and experience of the
> last 150 years. Your definition was fresh in the
> period of Jefferson. It
> was superceded in the period of Marx. We've been in
> a post-liberal era
> for longer than in a post-Marxist era. Your
> definition is a "back to the
> future" one. Your definition is idealist political
> thinking. Materialist
> political thinking has overcome idealist political
> thinking as the
> best.
>
>
>
>
>
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