[lbo-talk] Sawicky's Math (was Re: Obama on poverty: straightDLC=

Max B. Sawicky sawicky at verizon.net
Thu Apr 3 03:32:44 PDT 2008


If Bell is right a) we are truly screwed; b) a lot of conservatives have been wasting their time inveighing against trade unionism; and c) a lot of lefts have been wasting their time supporting it.

It's logically possible that wage or benefit increases are absorbed by price changes. There is no other reason to believe it, from what I've seen & heard.


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>>> Therefor, yes if "a" in your formula is the value of higher prices
>>> (especially rents), then it will indeed equal any TC.
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>> If. But there's no evidence. Nobody has even thought it an important
>> enough possibility to investigate it.
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> You say there is no evidence, I have not read every conceivable study to
> know that.
> In anycase, who gets to decide what investigations to fund?
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> Off the top of my head, Daniel Bell's research on collective bargaining,
> while not
> directly related, is instructive here. In "The Subversion of Collective
> Bargaining" Bell shows that wage increases earned through collective
> bargaining
> are always subsequently absorbed by price increases, and thus never in fact
> change the general level of real wages relative to rents and interest, only
>
> the structure as certain groups, as some wage-earned make gains against
> others.
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> I see no reason to suspect that nominal net wage increases from some tax
> credit scheme will wash out any differently.
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> Well, except that, being more uniform, such schemes allow less potential
> for
> even structural gains by some workers against others.
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>>> "It is sometimes said it would illogical for labour to resist
>>> a reduction of money-wages but not to resist a reduction of
>>> real wages [...] experience shows that this is how labour
>>> in fact behaves"
>>> -- John Maynard Keynes,
>>> The General Theory of Employment, Interest, and Money
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