[lbo-talk] Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn Dies at 89 (NY Times)

Chris Doss lookoverhere1 at yahoo.com
Mon Aug 4 11:59:19 PDT 2008


You would be considered a evrei, because you are a evrei, not a zhid.

You read substantial chunks of an 800-page book? The only translations I have ever seen of 200 Let have been done by me.

--- On Mon, 8/4/08, andie nachgeborenen <andie_nachgeborenen at yahoo.com> wrote:


> From: andie nachgeborenen <andie_nachgeborenen at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [lbo-talk] Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn Dies at 89 (NY Times)
> To: lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org
> Date: Monday, August 4, 2008, 2:03 PM
> I have read substantial translated excerpts of 200 Years
> Together, enough to know that if there is an innocent
> explanation, it would take a lot of explaining. I have
> actually read a whole volume of the Red Wheel, more than
> enough.
>
> I am highly aware that Russian antisemitism did not end
> with 1917 but continues up through the present day, it was
> severe in the Stalin period and afterward, though not as bad
> as under the Czar. I have experienced it myself in the
> post-Communist period from unlikely sources, such as my
> liberal friend Ryabakov's daughter-in-law, who would be
> horrified to know she had succumbed to the disease, as many
> white liberals come out with unconsciously racist remarks
> here. I know lots of Russian Jewish emigres who left because
> of antisemitism under the Soviet and present periods. And I
> can read poll data as well as the next fella.
>
> Don't get me wrong. Some of my best friends of
> Russians. ;-) I love the literature, up to the point, the
> culture, respect the Soviets for their role in saving the
> world in 1941-45 and keeping space in the rest of the world
> in 1917-89. I am substantially Russian and Polish in
> ancestry, although -- and this is the problem -- most
> Russians and Poles would not consider me Russian or Polish
> but zhidy, Jewish. And in my case case, as you well know,
> you cannot say I merely inherit my grandparent's shteltl
> prejudices, well, they weren't prejudices, they were
> well-founded, attitudes then; I actually know a lot about
> revolutionary and modern Russia.
>
>
>
> --- On Mon, 8/4/08, Chris Doss
> <lookoverhere1 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > From: Chris Doss <lookoverhere1 at yahoo.com>
> > Subject: Re: [lbo-talk] Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn Dies at
> 89 (NY Times)
> > To: lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org
> > Date: Monday, August 4, 2008, 5:25 AM
> > Solzhenitsyn never wrote a book called History of the
> Jews
> > in Russia. I assume you mean 200 Years Together, which
> has
> > never been translated, and thus you have never read
> it. Do
> > you often comment on books you haven't read? PS.
> > Slavophilia is not a living movement. Solzhenitsyn can
> no
> > more be a Slavophile than he can be a Whig.
> >
> > You know, like the descendents of many diasporas, your
> view
> > of Eastern Europe is fixated on the time period in
> which
> > your ancestors left. You have Diaspora Disease.
> >
> > --- On Sun, 8/3/08, andie nachgeborenen
> > <andie_nachgeborenen at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > > From: andie nachgeborenen
> > <andie_nachgeborenen at yahoo.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [lbo-talk] Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
> Dies at
> > 89 (NY Times)
> > > To: lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org
> > > Date: Sunday, August 3, 2008, 11:26 PM
> > > It's been many many years since S published
> > anything
> > > that wasn't a disgrace. He was gone a long
> time
> > ago. His
> > > early accomplishments were considerable. The Red
> > Wheel, The
> > > History of the Jews in Russia, are
> spine-chilling, and
> > in
> > > the end he succumbed to irrationalism and
> Slavophilia.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
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