[lbo-talk] What They Teach You at Harvard Business School

Bill Bartlett billbartlett at aapt.net.au
Fri Aug 22 19:08:29 PDT 2008


Some people are just naturally adept at managing people. Psychopaths. The people who are brilliant at managing things, are autistics.

Anyhow, your analysis was appreciated.

Bill Bartlett Bracknell Tas

At 7:16 PM -0400 22/8/08, shag wrote:


>the core curriculum: 10 required courses in managing things; 3 in
>dealing with people.
>
>and i can tell you that what counts as conflict resolution in these
>programs is probably what i learned. because what i learned was
>pretty much an overview of the most popular stuff out there.
>
>basically, conflict resolution is: how to manipulate people. you are
>told always, always to listen. most important thing. but you listen
>for a reason: to find the hooks where you need to shape the other
>person's reality.
>
>i remember reading this stuff and thinking, what will happen if,
>tomorrow, during our seminars, i point out that it's always going to
>be like playing tic-tac-to once each side in the game learns these
>principles? the game will always be scratch if both sides are trying
>to shape the other's reality to conform with their's. so, what's
>really at issue, if the conflict is between you and superordinate,
>is that the superordinate ultimately has the power to shape your
>reality the most.
>
>and, i mean, if what you are taught is that listening is not because
>you really want to understand where the other person is coming from,
>but because you want to understand where the weaknesses and
>vulnerabilities are so you can hook into them and destroy them,
>twist them and expose them, in order to ensure that *your* reality
>'wins', then this isn't really what people think of as interactive
>human communication -- listening, being heard and hearing the other
>side at all -- but ultimately about manipulating.
>
>and if both sides know like tic-tac-to, then the whole thing is a
>ruse. a scam. if you engage in it, as subordinate, you are kidding
>yourself.
>
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