[lbo-talk] blacks about as morally conservative as Republicans

[Chuck Grimes]

look, you may think it's not much, but let me tell you: working among
people who can't bother to be p.c. about it? lemme tell you something:
i went home on a daily basis last year during my first 6 months as the
only white queer on the team, wanting regularly to rip some heads off,
I was so incensed by what went on around me.  i'll take p.c. any day
over this shit i have to put up with.

you accept that white working class guys are blunt and un-pc, but
somehow you can't fathom blacks are blunt and un-pc? i think that's
pretty telling right there. shag

---------

Try to find your calm center. Remember I was addressing this:

``Blacks as Conservative as Republicans on Some Moral Issues One
explanation: Black Democrats are much more religious than nonblack
Democrats by Frank Newport..'' (thanks to Doug)

And secondarily, ``I don't even understand why there was uncertainty
surrounding this issue. Anyone with any knowledge of contemporary
black culture would know how laden with homophobia it is.'' by
Philip Pilkington

So shag, your work environment is nasty? So was mine, and I was
surrounded by sympathetic people on just about every political issue
from queer rights to the intricacies of black culture in O-town. It's
capitalism darling. It makes people shits. Try not to be one.

You're a big fan of close reading. ``you accept that white working
class guys are blunt and un-pc, but somehow you can't fathom blacks..'

Try re-reading what I said. I said or intended to say black and white
working class guys are blunt. The implication? This bluntness is about
class.

And, here's the kicker around here. The working class I know have the
same politics about queers. Live and let live. More explicitly we all
voted no. Hence my question about the break down on how Alameda County
voted, since it is about 40% black and a lot of the other 60% are
hispanic or asian...

And now for the just-so stories. We all smoked. One black guy from O
town, one guy who looked black but was from the Philippines, me and
two other low life white guys. The white guys? One from O-town and one
from the deepest, darkest, most scary white place of all,
Louisianna---complete with girl brides at ten who may or may not be
virgin, cousins with three eyes from inbreeding, the whole white trash
tree with no branches.

Everyone of one us had issues with religion, especially the Philippino
guy who went to old time Catholic school in Layete were the nuns used
rulers.... The other black guy? Baptist family, who struggle back and
forth with it. Remember we are all smoking on the church steps, a
black church... and we all voted no.

I practically begged you to come out here and live free of whatever
shit is clogging your mind and soul, remember? So what are these waves
of Chuck-hate about?

CG