[lbo-talk] blacks about as morally conservative as Republicans

Dennis Claxton ddclaxton at earthlink.net
Thu Dec 4 11:23:01 PST 2008


At 09:12 AM 12/4/2008, Matt wrote:


>On Thu, Dec 04, 2008 at 08:43:41AM -0800, Chris Doss snarkily wrote,
>without a single line break:
>
> > Now, while I realize that of course 95% of the credit
> > in abolishing Jim Crow must of course go to secular Marxists, who are
> > at the spearpoint of every social change, some small middling role was
> > played by the churches.
>
>Of course, that begs the question of what role the churches,
>specifically the Baptist churches in the Southern US, played in the
>social movement you are describing.

This thread has turned positive for me because I've learned quite a lot by trying to pin down Doss's fallacies. Here's one I didn't know about before:


>The logical fallacy of the package deal consists of assuming that
>things often grouped together by tradition or culture must always be
>grouped that way.
>
>It is particularly common in political arguments: "My opponent is a
>conservative who voted against higher taxes and welfare, therefore
>he will also oppose gun control and abortion." While those four
>positions are often grouped together as "conservative" in American
>politics, there is really no reason that one cannot believe in one
>"conservative" idea but not another.
>
>The package deal fallacy refers to misuse of the and operator. For
>misuse of the or operator, see false dilemma.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Package-deal_fallacy



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