--- On Fri, 12/5/08, Jenny Brown <jbrown72073 at cs.com> wrote:
>
> OK, are Italians cafeteria Catholics? Spaniards?
Are the French? Yes, they are cafeteria Catholics. Most of 'em. These are all largely secular countries.
Poland and
> Ireland, two of the only three European countries with
> little or no legal abortion, also have some history of
> national oppression, for example.
And they are also countries in which one of the main standard-bearers in fighting against that oppression was the Catholic Church. The parallel with the afroamerican church is obvious.