I'm really not sure what is being denied and what is being claimed here on Jenny's part. Is it
1) lots of people in Ireland, Poland, and such places aren't really antiabortion, is it 2) even if they are antiabortion, it's not in part because of the role of the Church, or is it 3) religion in general doesn't really play an important role in public opinion (despite what most people think and what the Church itself thinks)
???
--- On Wed, 12/10/08, Wendy Lyon <wendy.lyon at gmail.com> wrote:
> From: Wendy Lyon <wendy.lyon at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [lbo-talk] Catholicism, was Re: blacks about as morally conservative as Republicans
> To: lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org
> Date: Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 11:10 AM
> On 09/12/2008, Jenny Brown <jbrown72073 at cs.com> wrote:
> >
> > I think it depends how you ask the question. If you
> ask in the abstract,
> > "should abortion be illegal?" many more will
> say yes than if you say,
> > "should the government punish women,
> doctors?" And people in the U.S. are a
> > lot more likely to say 'there oughta be a law'
> than that the government
> > should encourage or discourage this or that.
>
> The question on the page is "should the government
> discourage abortion
> using criminal enforcement". I agree you're likely
> to get a lower Yes
> on that question than on "should abortion be
> illegal". But 8%? No
> way.
>
> > I'm just
> > trying to break through the reflexive tone--how could
> this be! Mexico's
> > Catholic!
>
> There's nothing reflexive at all about my skepticism
> regarding the
> Mexican statistics on that page. You make too many
> assumptions. I
> doubt those numbers because they are not in keeping with
> the things
> that I read or heard from Mexican activists themselves in
> the wake of
> the Mexico City law change. I would put more credence in
> their reports
> than on some random poll on the internet that happens to
> have a number
> of other dodgy statistics.
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