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>
> >>> "Philip Pilkington"
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> Well this is completely unfair... A while ago I posted claiming that this
> *very
> particular* strain of homophobia could probably be traced to to both black
> people's lower socio-economic and their attempt to form an identity out of
> the wreckage of some 300 years of enslavement, be it physical or moral.
>
> ^^^
> CB: How is it that low income or slavery legacy would cause tendency to
> homophobia ?
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> Well, there is the notion that "the rich get richer and the poor get
> children ".
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> ^^^^
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> This, for me, is not just about black culture, its about a nasty tendency
> for "progressives" to try and externalise the blame for certain actions by
> minority groups onto the "bigger picture" - a bit like some
> liberals/conservatives try to do to justify Israeli actions in Palestine
> through historical reference - and as I said, while sometimes this can be
> interesting or useful sometimes it comes across as simply being a repugnant
> manifestation of res-sentiment.
>
> ^^^^
> CB:Ah , how did I know res-sentiment would be one of the theories here.
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> I said just yesterday:
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> CB: The thing is blacks have a slave morality, like Nietzsche said. I
> think they are res-sentimenting.
> Hey, have you read _ Black Bourgeoisie_ ?
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> ^^^
>
> Anytime I encounter this I'm always reminded of a quote by Adorno which he
> wrote while in exile from Hitler's Germany:
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> "It would be poor psychology to assume that exclusion arouses only hate and
> resentment; it arouses too a possessive, intolerant kind of love, and those
> whom repressive culture has held at a distance can easily enough become its
> diehard defenders"
>
> ^^^^
> CB: What is the evidence that this is true concerning "blacks" ?
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All I'm saying is that how about you apply this moral framework:
"People are total assholes, so how about we try and make them hate each other less be shrinking the income gap".
Then we can begin to try and apply a moralism which isn't, frankly, tainted with white guilt. Apart from that, stop bullshitting, as you're one step away from justifying ghastly acts which can be justified by nonsense "victim-moralism".
Go on try it... there's many acts that could be justified by calling into play the fact that the agent of said act was "oppressed"...