[lbo-talk] Progress and Cariucature (Was Re: Catholicism. . . )

andie nachgeborenen andie_nachgeborenen at yahoo.com
Mon Dec 15 09:45:15 PST 2008


It's only irrtaional to condemn slavery from a slaveowner's POV if you are an egoist. Is that a ntural state? Anyone who has any empathy ot concern for others or any moral code that requires him to take the interests of others into real consideration --- and isn't that what a moral code is? -- will recognize that slavery is problematic at least. Euripedes saw this long ago, and it troubled slaveowners and ideologists for at least 2000 or so years.

--- On Sun, 12/14/08, Chris Doss <lookoverhere1 at yahoo.com> wrote:


> From: Chris Doss <lookoverhere1 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [lbo-talk] Progress and Cariucature (Was Re: Catholicism. . . )
> To: lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org
> Date: Sunday, December 14, 2008, 8:53 PM
> Why? Christianity is not European. Even if it were, ideas
> are not limited by their geographical place of origin.
>
> Really, the whole "slavery is bad" thing is of
> relatively recent coinage and clearly is derived from a set
> or sets of ideas. From a right-makes-right POV, slavery (of
> other people) is awesomesauce, as the kids say nowadays. You
> don't have to do any work. You make other people work
> for you, while you sit on your ass and are serviced by your
> numerous concubines! Sweet! People lived like that for
> thousands of years. To believe that slavery is bad requires
> a certain self-suppression (from the POV of the slave
> owner).
>
> --- On Sun, 12/14/08, Matthias Wasser
> <matthias.wasser at gmail.com> wrote:
> There's an
> > intellectual
> > tradition of blaming Christianity; although that _has_
> to
> > be overly
> > Eurocentric, right?
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