[lbo-talk] [DEBATE] : Re: (Fwd) Fed pump-priming; Doug sees a fix, Whitney doesn't

Doug Henwood dhenwood at panix.com
Mon Dec 22 10:09:10 PST 2008


On Dec 22, 2008, at 12:57 PM, Patrick Bond wrote:


> Doug Henwood wrote:
>> ... Why did these actions/movements have so little effect, in what
>> should have been more promising political/economic environments
>> than the U.S.? Mexico's governments have, if anything, moved to the
>> right over the last decade, and we all know the sad story of South
>> Africa.
>
> They weren't generalised, and they didn't move out of single-issue
> politics. In other words they were economistic and didn't have a
> socialist leadership able to link to other struggles underway at the
> time.

So even though these didn't take off in countries with more developed political sensibilities than the USA, and which were enduring more severe economic problems than here as well, they're nonetheless a model?


>> Should I have cited these in the LA Times exchange? They would have
>> had no resonance in the U.S.
>
> You're not really paying attention, are you dear comrade:

Yeah, must have missed that burgeoning mass movement against foreclosure. Thanks for pointing it out.

You don't see any similarity between failed localized, economistic uprisings like El Barzon and the bond boycott and the occupation of an office by some folks from ACORN? They're all isolated theatrical episodes with no deeper political roots.

Doug



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