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Michael Pollak mpollak at panix.com
Mon Feb 4 07:51:09 PST 2008


On Mon, 4 Feb 2008, Doug Henwood wrote:


> Let's talk about something less controversial, like Islamism.

Apropos, Juan Cole had something I thought was interesting over the weekend over the distinction between "Islamic" and "Muslim:"

http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2008/02/01/islamophobia/

Salon.com

Feb 1, 2008

Blowback from the GOP's holy war

The 2008 Republican race has left a bitter legacy of sloganeering

against Muslims. It may well haunt the party this November.

By Juan Cole

<snip>

But the failure of Islamophobia as a campaign strategy is no better

illustrated than by the spectacular flame-out of Rudy Giuliani.

Throughout his campaign (deep-sixed after his dismal showing in

Tuesday's Florida primary), the former New York mayor evoked the Sept.

11 attacks at an absurd rate. Giuliani and his advisors appeared to

revel in demonizing Muslims. They also reveled in their own ignorance

-- never learning the difference between "Islamic" and "Muslim."

"Islamic" has to do with the religion founded by the prophet Mohammed.

We speak of Islamic ethics or Islamic art, as things that derive from

the religion. "Muslim," on the contrary, describes the believer. It

would be perfectly all right to talk about Muslim terrorists, but

calling them Islamic terrorists or Islamic fascists implies that the

religion of Islam is somehow essentially connected to those extremist

movements.

Giuliani complained that during their debates, Democratic rivals "never

mentioned the word 'Islamic terrorist,' 'Islamic extremist,' 'Islamic

fascist,' 'terrorist,' whatever combination of those words you want to

use, [the] words never came up." He added, "I can't imagine who you

insult if you say 'Islamic terrorist.' You don't insult anyone who is

Islamic who isn't a terrorist."

But people are not "Islamic," they are Muslim. And one most certainly

does insult Muslims by tying their religion to movements such as

terrorism or fascism. Muslims perceive a double standard in this

regard: Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols would never be called

"Christian terrorists" even though they were in close contact with the

Christian Identity Movement. No one would speak of Christofascism or

Judeofascism as the Republican candidates speak of Islamofascism.

Muslims point out that persons of Christian heritage invented fascism,

not Muslims, and deny that Muslim movements have any link to the mass

politics of the 1930s in Europe.

Giuliani's pledge to take the United States on an offensive against

Islamic fascism, which he also said would be a long-term battle, failed

to excite the imagination of voters. It may well have alarmed them in a

way different from what Giuliani intended: If, by Giuliani's logic, the

United States is only on the "defensive" now, with wars in Afghanistan

and Iraq, what would being on the offensive look like? Would Giuliani

have started four wars? Interestingly, Giuliani did especially poorly

in Florida among retired and active-duty military personnel.

<end excerpt>

Full at: http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2008/02/01/islamophobia/

Michael



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