[lbo-talk] Toxic Fiscalism

Max B. Sawicky sawicky at verizon.net
Tue Feb 12 08:06:51 PST 2008


You need taxes as well, and obviously what you spend money on and how you raise taxes are crucial (the spending more than the taxes). But getting to budget balance is an unnecessary constraint on public spending. The perverse logic of balance, moreover, lends itself to more than balance, but to surpluses.

It's been well established that legislative changes in the 90s were a limited (well under 50%) factor in getting to surplus. I don't deny that the initial push in the 93 budget was important, but it was much less than 'all that.'

Bob Pollin (Contours of Descent) is good on this. The big factors in the latter 90s were the stock market bubble and Greasepan.


>From: Doug Henwood <dhenwood at panix.com>
>Date: 2008/02/12 Tue AM 09:21:55 CST
>To: lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org
>Subject: Re: [lbo-talk] Toxic Fiscalism


>
>On Feb 12, 2008, at 7:14 AM, Max B. Sawicky wrote:
>
>> Another straw in the wind.
>>
>> HRC:
>>
>> "So when I hear Senator Obama talk about that, I wonder which
>> fights he
>> wouldn't fight. Would he have not fought to get to a balanced
>> budget and
>> a surplus and help create 22 million new jobs?"
>>
>> a) Clinton did not balance the budget. He did reduce the deficit.
>> b) Neither the balanced budget nor Clinton "create(ed) 22 million new
>> jobs." This is reactionary fiscal doctrine.
>> c) A commitment to the BB or worse, surplus, is profoundly
>> reactionary,
>> not least alongside a commitment to maintain the defense budget.
>
>Max, I don't get the point of running chronic deficits, even if
>they're stable. Ok as a countercyclical stimulus, but why not tax
>rich people instead of borrowing from them? And why get so hot over
>the balance? Aren't the crucial political questions how the money is
>raised and how it's spent? The Scandinavian social democracies have
>been fiscally prudent, no?
>
>Clinton didn't personally balance the budget - he needed some help
>from Congress. But what do you mean by (a)? The unadjusted federal
>budget balance went from -4.5% of GDP in 1993 to +2.5% in 2000.
>Cyclically adjusted by the CBO, it went from -3.0% to +1.5%.
>
>Why do you think the rate of job growth during the Clinton years
>three or four times that of the Bush years?
>
>Doug
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