[lbo-talk] Rove

MK mkurk at mac.com
Fri Feb 22 09:14:41 PST 2008


"Voting is easy and marginally useful, but it is a poor substitute for democracy, which requires direct action by concerned citizens." - Howard Zinn http://zcommunications.org/znet/viewArticle/16590

"The question is what will you do, where will you go with the one opening that they leave you which they claim is democracy." http://zcommunications.org/zaudio/2515 - Poet and activist Amiri Baraka.

There is a way forward, the only way things are ever accomplished when fighting illegitimate power- from the bottom up, without harboring illusions but keeping our eyes open to possibilities.

I'm not trying to be glib - just explaining that as I watch those activists and community organizers whom I admire most and try to learn from, they don't let the elections control their work. Instead, they are constantly evaluating how their work can be used to influence the elected, and building coalitions between community organizations from the ground up. Whatever we can think of to harness and redirect some of the energy from the Obama camp so as to achieve our goals.

We can surely make a tactical choice come the November election but until then and immediately thereafter it's just continuing to build bridges with the folks on the ground.

Maryellen

On Feb 22, 2008, at 11:28 AM, Max B. Sawicky wrote:


> Your problem is you can't take yes for an answer.
>
> For we the perplexed, please describe some alternative path or
> scenario from our present wretched state to better times. Is it
> Rosa's mass strike? A more handsome Ralph Nader? What?
>
>
>>> You keep saying things like this without offering any evidence.
>>> Which I suppose makes sense, since the available evidence is to
>>> the contrary.
>>> Doug
>>
>> Forget it, Doug. From this point on, Obamaites will be
>> unreachable. They've got religion, and nothing will stop the
>> snake waving.>Dennis
>
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