[lbo-talk] teaching the pampered rich at Harvard

Joseph Catron jncatron at gmail.com
Tue Jul 22 18:10:37 PDT 2008


We seem to be having multiple conversations in this thread simultaneously. I'll not dwell on the point, other than to say that I read nothing in your reply below conflicting with my post, to which it was apparently intended as a critical response.

I will, however, note how some of the loaded language used here shapes the conversation. Is the idea of professors as "hired help," obligated to help students prepare for their chosen careers, really so outrageous? However we cut the numbers, I hope we can agree that many, many students attend college with vocational goals foremost in their minds.

And why is conflating tenured academics with residential housekeepers, or whatever else "hired help" means, so evocative? They're people who do jobs, some parts of which they like more than others, for money, right?

On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 7:58 PM, John Thornton <jthorn65 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:


> For starters State University students and Community College students have
> never made we wish for an explosive laden vest.
>
> My only elite college experience is at Harvard but I have heard from
> reliable persons that my impressions were typical of other similar
> institutions.
>
> The sense of entitlement at such schools is almost unbelievable unless
> you've spent much time with these fucks.
> Their attitude is, as someone pointed out, that the Professors and
> instructors are mere servants.
> People whose job it is is to validate the students preconceived ideas about
> themselves as elites.
> I've never experienced that from any of the students at any of the State
> Universities I've had the pleasure of associating with.
> You have to be taught such ideas from early childhood and State University
> students seldom, if ever, receiving such developmental training.

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