[lbo-talk] a poe moe and da poe moes

Charles Brown charlesb at cncl.ci.detroit.mi.us
Mon Jul 28 10:21:44 PDT 2008



>>> negative potential

The epistemological break between the Parisian Manuscripts and the German Ideology has been demonstrated convincingly and conclusively. ^^^^^ CB: To make such a big claim, perhaps you should quote Marx, rather than a mere conclusory assertion.

What about the alienation of the worker from the land as his/her natural laboratory, in Marx's later (than The German Ideology) discussion of pre-capitalist formations ?

^^^^

The alienation problematic is *entirely* absent from Marx's mature work, so your attempt to sneak "Gattungswesen" into the conversation is just as bad.

Stop it, already. It is intellectually dishonest. An immanent critique of Marx would involve criticizing him on the basis of the words and concepts *he* uses, not the ones you falsely attribute to him.

“the relations connecting the labour of one individual with that of the rest appear, not as direct social relations between individuals at work, but as what they really are, material relations between persons and social relations between things.”

Notice the key phrase: "as what they really are". The distribution of social labor really *is* mediated by things. It's not some fog masking the "real" relationships.

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