[lbo-talk] a poe moe and da poe moes

wrobert at uci.edu wrobert at uci.edu
Mon Jul 28 12:29:27 PDT 2008


If one were interested, Althusser's essay "The Humanist Controversy" would be a good place to go. According to Balibar, Althusser wound up shifting his position as he got older and thought that Marx never fully made the epistemological leap that was emphasized in his early work (although their was a profound shift in his thinking. Balibar's Philosophy of Marx is another interesting essay dealing with this question. He links up this question with the shift to fetishism. robert wood


>>>> negative potential
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> The epistemological break between the Parisian
> Manuscripts and the German Ideology has been
> demonstrated convincingly and conclusively.
> ^^^^^
> CB: To make such a big claim, perhaps you should quote Marx, rather than a
> mere conclusory assertion.
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> What about the alienation of the worker from the land as his/her natural
> laboratory, in Marx's later (than The German Ideology) discussion of
> pre-capitalist formations ?
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> ^^^^
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> The
> alienation problematic is *entirely* absent from
> Marx's mature work, so your attempt to sneak
> "Gattungswesen" into the conversation is just as bad.
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> Stop it, already. It is intellectually dishonest. An
> immanent critique of Marx would involve criticizing
> him on the basis of the words and concepts *he* uses,
> not the ones you falsely attribute to him.
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> “the relations connecting the labour of one individual
> with that of the rest appear, not as direct social
> relations between individuals at work, but as what
> they really are, material relations between persons
> and social relations between things.”
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> Notice the key phrase: "as what they really are". The
> distribution of social labor really *is* mediated by
> things. It's not some fog masking the "real"
> relationships.
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