[lbo-talk] NYSNA vs. SEIU1199

[Michael McIntyre]

Mark, you've maintained a decent silence on some crappy things that  
SEIU has done.  Given your position, I've taken that as positive and  
the best thing you can do.  I think you should retreat to that  
position on this one.  You know very well that NYSNA had nothing to  
do with Ohio.  No one here counts SEIU as down for the revo, so  
"betraying the revolution" is a red herring.  And consistency cuts  
both ways.

MM

On Jun 7, 2008, at 11:02 AM, Mark Rickling wrote:


>> On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 8:58 PM, Max B. Sawicky  
>> <sawicky at verizon.net> wrote:
>
>>> Maybe NYSNA is a lousy union, I wouldn't know, but in light of  
>>> the blinding
>>> reality that there's a whole wide world of people with absolutely no
>>> organizational
>>> backing, it seems insane to pick on the NYSNA.
>
> NYSNA is an affiliate of the NNOC. The CNA/NNOC blew up the CHP union
> vote and then started raiding SEIU units. SEIU has responded in kind.
> SEIU has also made an overture to all healthcare unions to sign a
> no-raiding pact. To this date the NNOC has not responded. SEIU didn't
> want this fight; the NNOC did.
>
> I get how SEIU stands accused of betraying the revolution for a myriad
> of issues on this list, but shouldn't one be consistent when it comes
> to raiding and the fight between SEIU and the NNOC?
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