[lbo-talk] Chavez: slow down

Paul Papadeas papadeas13 at yahoo.com
Mon Mar 3 09:37:41 PST 2008


I agree with this.

But what ultimately is Socialism for the 21st century? Wouldn't this also include the ability to allow everyday people to control their own destinies outside of the need for government mediation? To fall into a stateless situation?

Is this merely a pipe dream - even for the long term future?

Chris Doss <lookoverhere1 at yahoo.com> wrote:

Why should they want legitimacy as a true mechanism of transition? They want legitimacy in the eyes of the people (Mexican and Venezuelan poor people, for instance) they represent, not those of Western intellectuals. I imagine your average person in a Venezuelan sum does not care about transitioning to socialism or whatever -- he/she wants a higher standard of living.

--- Paul Papadeas wrote: Yes, Chavez and other nationalist leaders of the month can push a social-democratic platform - but if it wants legitimacy as a true mechanism of transition - then it needs to promote more autonomy within the country (more self-management projects)

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