[lbo-talk] BHO & working-class whites

Robert Wrubel bobwrubel at yahoo.com
Fri May 16 08:57:04 PDT 2008


Carrol Cox <cbcox at ilstu.edu> wrote:

"I don't know whether Marvin is being obtuse or insulting in this instance."

Carrol, you're forgetting your grad school days. Little barbs, preceded by "with apologies to" are an accepted form of flattery in academe.

BW

Jerry Monaco wrote:
>
> On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 10:31 AM, Marvin Gandall
> wrote:
>
> > .
> > ===================================
> > Which is why the "left" (apologies to Carrol), > party.
>


> Marvin, I am not asking you to agree with me, but you can at least try to
> see how I see the difference.

Yes. Marvin apparently doesn't understand the locus of my objections to references to "The Left." That locus is the Unit3d States, 1985-to present. I would have no objection whatever to his use of "The Left" (not the "Left") here, and probably have often made such statements myself. "The Left" clearly exists over time, and always will as long ascapitalism exists. But there is no _coherent_ left, AT THE PRESENT TIME, in the United States that can be the refrent of a critique, negative or positive.

I don't know whether Marvin is being obtuse or insulting in this instance.

Carrol

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