[lbo-talk] competence, not ideology ... again

Shane Taylor shane.taylor at verizon.net
Mon Nov 3 13:38:35 PST 2008


John Thornton wrote:


> Where were the starry-eyed Obamaniacs expecting a
> New Deal or new Great Society?

Even for the ones with stars in their eyes, it's no given that they foresee social democracy. I wonder if some are just giddy for a government to pledge allegiance to and aren't asking for much in return.

shag wrote:


> actually, the sucky thing about this incident is
> that, typical of dems, everyone did their best to
> distance themselves from being a socialist
> therefore reinforcing the use of red-baiting and
> condoning the idea that no one in their right mind
> would want to be or be associated with socialists.

Nailed it. The _fear_ of socialism isn't what it used to be, but the smirking contempt that there is nothing to even debate is reflexive. Obama demonstrated this himself in the interview with Jon Stewart, ribbing Daily Show as socialist. The butt of that joke wasn't McCain, in my opinion.

Shane



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