[lbo-talk] Obama picks Rahm Emanuel, free trade fanatic & welfare "reformer"

Chris Doss lookoverhere1 at yahoo.com
Thu Nov 6 01:05:51 PST 2008


But this is what Marx himself thought, isn't it? In fact, one reason the authorities in the Russian Empire encouraged Marxism at one point was that the Marxists, as opposed to the narodniki or anarchists, supported the Tsar's industrialization drive.

--- On Thu, 11/6/08, B. <docile_body at yahoo.com> wrote:


> I have spoken with Marxists whose reasoning is so convoluted
> that they demand and welcome new "developing"
> countries into the capitalist fold, because in their
> playbook a country *must* FIRST go through capitalism to get
> beyond that and therefore into socialism. So new capitalist
> countries are welcome by some Marxists.
>
> Point is, obviously Marx thought a post-capitalist society
> would be progress, at least according to any generally-used
> definition of "capitalism" I am aware of.
>
> Some of his supporters have taken it to the extreme to say
> a nation MUST go through a period of capitalism before
> progressing into socialism, thus ironically putting them in
> the position of championing burgeoning new capitalist
> societies.
>
> Pretty fucked up.
>
> -B.
>
>



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