[WS:] If it has been reduced, then it follows that it was in a much better shape in the past, or so it seems by my logic. And if it was in a better shape in the past, then someobody must have given it thatshape, no? That someone can be either the bourgeoisie or the working class. Quite frankly, I belive that it was the working class - which is onsistent with the point that made earlier, namely that the welfare state was one of the greatest real achievements of the socialist/working class movement.
Granted, that achievement is under attack by global bourgeoisie, but it does not diminish the significance of initially attaining this achievements. I argued, in the context of andie's popsting, that this was one of gretest accomplishments of the sociallist/working class movement, which currently is either being taken for granted, or even dimissed by looney left.
Wojtek
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