But that really has nothing to do with hunting wolves from helicopters. In terms of the "controversy" as Shag put, it is a ginned up controversy like denialism of the human contribution to global warming. All the mainstream scientists and biologists are against it. Here is the trick supporters use. The formula for when wolves can be shot is based on the Moose and Elk population dropping below a certain number. That numbers is set higher that it is likely to ever go , because most of the drop is based on human not wolf hunting. And that number is much higher than needed to maintain a stable Moose and Elk population. So a formula was chosen that has nothing to do with biological reality but which will always allow hunting from helicopters. Which has everything to do with the "fun" of torturing wolves to death, chasing them to exhaustion and then killing them. To me this is really repulsive in a way that a skilled hunter making a quick kill of an animal he or she intends to eat is not. And yeah it is a personal and subjective judgment, not an advanced political analysis. Although I disagree with Chris on many things, like him I reserve to right to make personal judgments, not only political ones.
On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 9:19 AM, John Thornton <jthorn65 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Jordan Hayes wrote:
>>>
>>> Are there so many USers who "secure their proteins" with hunting ?
>>
>> I doubt there's many who use hunting as subsistence (Ted Nugent to the
>> contrary), but there are a not-insignificant number who do essentially count
>> on supplementing their table with their take from hunting season. The last
>> number I saw was that there are between 15-20M "active hunters" in the US,
>> which is, as you could imagine, hotly contested by both sides of the
>> hunting-advocacy issue.
>>
>> /jordan
>
>
> The numbers of people where I live who supplement their proteins by hunting
> is large.
> Were they not allowed to hunt their food costs would rise considerably.
> Certainly most hunters are just doing it for the fun of killing something
> and spend much more on hunting accoutrements than they save on food but
> significant numbers of people rely on hunted food to supplement their
> caloric intake a noticeable amount.
>
> John Thornton
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