[lbo-talk] race costing Obama about 6 points

shag shag at cleandraws.com
Mon Sep 22 17:28:06 PDT 2008


earlier today, at lunch, i was reviewing the write ups around this poll. this analysis, about the way the numbers were spun to emphasize what appeared to be more racism among democrats caught my eye. what the story also confirmed was why i was surfing so much to begin with: i was trying to locate an actual report so i didn't have to rely on interpretation. it took awhile to locate a source (pdf linked below):

http://surveys.ap.org/data/KnowledgeNetworks/AP_Election_Wave6_Topline_W6%20ALL%20weight5_091808.pdf

Fox 9 News anchor Marni Hughes asked the question Sunday night: What role will race play in the November election? The answer she provided came from the latest AP Yahoo poll released over the weekend. As she told the tale (reinforced by text on screen), one-third of white Democrats reported harboring some negative attitudes toward African-Americans. That rose to 40 percent, she said, when white Republican and independent voters were added to the mix.

Judging from that presentation, a viewer with 7th-grade math skills could deduce that almost half of the white Republican and independent voters must hold those racist beliefs, since adding them to the pool of white Democrats raised the percentage from 33 to 40 percent.

And that means Fox 9 could instead have presented the same facts this way: Almost half of the country's white Republican and independent voters hold racist views of black people, but when you add in survey results from white Democratic voters, that percentage drops to 40 percent.

It's as if Fox 9 set out to prove the point former Minnesota Poll director Rob Daves made in recent comments to the Minnesota Independent: that perceived problems with polls often reside in the reporting, not the polls. News outlets need to hew to what polls really say, and news consumers need to drill, baby, drill down into the actual poll results and methodologies.

In this case, Fox 9 sliced and diced the results in a way that emphasized Democrats' racist attitudes over Republicans and independent voters' apparently more widely held attachments to the same views. Yet the pollsters should shoulder some blame as well.

UPDATE: By email, producer Ryan Rablin cited this line in the AP story as the source for Fox 9's report: "But Obama faces this: 40 percent of all white Americans hold at least a partly negative view toward blacks, and that includes many Democrats and independents." The AP story goes on: "More than a third of all white Democrats and independents - voters Obama can't win the White House without - agreed with at least one negative adjective about blacks ." This seems to be a game of Telephone, with statistics shifting as the story passes from one outlet to the next.

The survey used an innovative method, contacting respondents first by phone but then asking questions online ­ where people are more like to open up and give honest responses, the theory goes. And open up they did, with significant numbers signing onto at one, two or more in a string of stereotypes the pollsters offered.

Yet the pollsters' own presentation seems to fall short of the mark. The AP's glib conclusion that non-Democrat racism against Sen. Barack Obama isn't an issue ("Most Republicans wouldn't vote for any Democrat for president ­ white, black or brown") recalls the logic that rich and poor alike are banned from sleeping under bridges.

Setting aside whether AP Yahoo pollsters asked the right questions of the right people, they aren't providing the right results to anybody. Nowhere does it appear that either outfit saw fit to break down the racist responses by party affiliation. AP's report doesn't have a multi-party breakdown, and neither does Yahoo's "interactive" Web feature (where interactivity amounts to clicking through more graphs, none of which illuminate the racism-by-party-affiliation point). At Yahoo's news report the racist views of voters by all three political party groupings appear only in a sidebar graph, without hard numbers. Most egregiously of all, the answers don't show up in the 20-page PDF of poll results where inquisitive minds should be able to find the facts behind the graphs.

http://minnesotaindependent.com/9787/wily-fox-9-warps-results-of-ap-yahoo-poll-on-voters-racist-views



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