Yes, the second link in my message is to a book that Winograd coauthored with Flores.
> Did I mention that imho H. set new standards in bloviation?
Once I read Plato, I sort of took bloviation as an unavoidable feature of Western philosophy (Eastern philosophers, having gotten in on the game with a handsome headstart, were bloviating a long time before Plato stepped into his cave) -- Kant, Hegel (the little I could read of him) sharpened my filters and by the time I hit Heidegger I was well prepared! Later I came across Erasmus and Frege. Wish I had read them *before*!
> I know you know the whole Hubert Dreyfus rant now, right?
Don't know which rant you speak of, but Dreyfus yes, he was referred to as well in my original email.
I wrote to Winograd asking for a copy of his Heidegger paper and he wrote back within minutes with a LaTeX attachment. I love CS and mathematics academics, who always humour such requests (Neal Koblitz even snail mailed me a printed copy of his old papers)! The only other academic who responds to my email is Michael Perelman (and Julio). ;-)
--ravi
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