P.S. I am always suspicious when the phrase 'as old as human existence'
is invoked. The 'humanism' that we talk about is invariably the
'humanism' of the enlightenment. Kind of a historical phenomenon
>
> Your post above (and another recent one about Chavez presenting Obama
> with a book) inspired me to bring the below response (which I had
> abandoned) from my Drafts folder. FWIW:
>
> Hugo Chavez speaks of a "new socialism" and holds up a book by Noam
> Chomsky.
>
> All IMHO: the 20th century struggles were dominated by anti-colonial
> movements and the broader frameworks in which they were grounded (e.g:
> Gandhi, Raja Ram Mohan Roy), and the civil rights struggles of
> particular groups. They were, it seems to me, influenced and informed
> by a range of moral/humanist traditions and practices with a history
> as old as human existence. Their counterparts (in the West) are some
> of the very individuals listed as those Hitchens takes up cudgels with
> for standing in opposition to his beloved internationalism: Chomsky,
> Zinn, others. (interestingly not former comrades from this
> internationalism).
>
> I am reaching a point where I wonder if Hitchens and his detractors
> (as outlined in this piece, with his detractors being identified as
> "the Left") are irrelevant to the future. They own the terminology and
> to some extent the [verbal] debate, but I have reason to hope that
> third world movements hold the answers of the future.
>
> --ravi
>
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