[lbo-talk] Ubuntu stuff

Matt lbo4 at beyondzero.net
Mon Aug 17 19:02:38 PDT 2009


On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 05:25:14PM -0400, // ravi wrote:
> On Aug 17, 2009, at 4:54 PM, shag carpet bomb wrote:
> >
> > every FOSS booster has *got* to read dreaming in code. what you
> > learn is that the very things FOSS is supposed to address (buggy
> > code, lengthy release cycles, etc.) it isn't any better at doing
> > than the proprietary, closed source approach.
>
>
> I am not sure these are the very things FOSS is supposed to address,
> and it certainly need not be (in fact, I think this point may define
> the split between Stallman and the _pragmatists_). BTW, its difficult
> to compare these things... we do not have access to the source code or
> raw bug report data of closed source software. This argument gets
> rehashed every time some report or the other comes out (see:
> Coverity's static code analysis of open source vs Boeing or whatever
> they compared it to).
>
>
> > rosenberg follows the fate of an open source software project -
> > chandler -- that seems like it ought to be an exemplar of open
> > source development and its so-called advantages (with enough eyes,
> > all bugs are shallow; etc.)
>
>
> Chandler is/was an OSAF project with backing (and funding) from Mitch
> Kapor of Lotus 1-2-3 fame. That is not much of an exemplar of FOSS.
> But of course a lot of FOSS projects fail. FOSS does not guarantee
> success, nor does the lack of success of this or that FOSS project
> negate [claims about] the nature of FOSS development.
>
> I will try to give this book a shot,
>
> --ravi
>
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