[lbo-talk] let's argue about the cause of mental illness

shag carpet bomb shag at cleandraws.com
Thu Aug 27 17:01:01 PDT 2009


At 01:18 PM 8/27/2009, Jeffrey Fisher wrote:
>[interlinear below]
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>On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 11:55 AM, shag carpet bomb <shag at cleandraws.com>wrote:
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> > actually, i'd been thinking about ppl diagnosed with ptsd. an alarming
> > number of radical feminsits seem to suffer from it.
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>
>So you're thinking that radicalism is being pathologized? I'm just making
>sure I'm understanding. Or are you wondering why it would be that many
>radical feminists do in fact suffer from it? Not that these couldn't both be
>true.

no. i was just fucking around.


><...>
> > so, how about adhd? add? pstd? eating disorders? autism spectrum
> > disorders (e.g., asperger's disease),
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>
>As a side note, isn't there considerable debate on the spectrum question? I
>had occasion to sit as an outside-dept faculty member on senior comps in our
>psych department, and this came up quite specifically in one of them, where
>the student was talking about the spectrum, and two of the three psych
>faculty were resisting this, saying it had become the pop way of
>understanding autism and asperger's, but since we have no etiology here
>(right?) the connection between them is the connection of a purely
>symptomatic diagnosis. Autism looks like a more severe Asperger's, so they
>must be related. There was a big Newsweek cover article on this a couple of
>years ago, and it was presented as the new science at the same time as it
>was presented as the Right Science, but it seems like much ado about
>nothing, insofar as we still understand relatively little about how autism
>or asperger's actually works.

i was using the list of items described by the national mental illness association web site.

in this area, i have seen so many autism bumper stickers that I have been wondering WTF is going on. it's a big military region.... most of these people supporting autism support bumper stickers are also clearly military -- you can tell by the stickers on their windshield.

don't know what's up with that. haven't had time to investigate.


>I would be very happy to be corrected and informed on this, since my efforts
>at understanding autism have been largely, well, frustrated.
>
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> > borderline personality disorder,
> > obsessive compulsive disorder, panic disorder, generalized anxiety
> > disorder (which is being diagnosed for people who are shy), seasonal
> > affective disorder, etc.
> >
> > does the same apply?
> >
> > i don't think she's antipsychiatry.
>
>
>Right. This is what I had been wondering.
>
>j

her argument is intended to convince you that medicine / healthcare should not be profit-based industries. being a bourgeois writer, of course, her remedies are going to treat the symptoms, not the disease in the long run. you could possibly remove the healthcare system from the free market, but you'd still be left with capitalism. but that leaves us sitting around waiting for a time when the prairies are dry enough to spark a fire.

her last paragraph heading is "start a revolution" -- with the typical bourgie suggestion to vote for the right politicians.

shag



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