[lbo-talk] Notes Towards a Critiq8ue of Progress (1)

[John Thornton]

If the xtian god has a nature that is contrary to the nature of the 
universe, that is omniscient and omnipotent, how can that god not be 
external to nature?
The xtian god created the universe, it didn't become the universe.
I agree Plato's was not external but the xtian god must be.

John Thornton

Chris Doss wrote:
> I hate to break this to you, but the Christian god is not conceived of as external to nature, given that he created it. Neither is Plato's, of which nature is a dim reflection.
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> --- On Sat, 2/14/09, Shane Mage <shmage at pipeline.com> wrote:
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>> No deity need have anything to do with it, and a deity
>> *external* to nature cannot conceivably have anything to do
>> with it.  All that is required is the proposition that the
>> ultimate course of events takes form in the determining
>> context of formal natural law.  Einstein's phrase was an
>> idiomatic expression of this (Platonic) concept.
>> Sheldrake's suggestion of a "morphogenetic
>> field" is another (nonmathematical) expression of that
>> concept.
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