The Christian god stands in relation to the universe as creator to created. The world is his idea. Moreover, he BECAME FLESH.
You guys really need to read some theology. :)
--- On Sat, 2/14/09, John Thornton <jthorn65 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> From: John Thornton <jthorn65 at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: [lbo-talk] Notes Towards a Critiq8ue of Progress (1)
> To: lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org
> Date: Saturday, February 14, 2009, 7:29 PM
> If the xtian god has a nature that is contrary to the nature
> of the
> universe, that is omniscient and omnipotent, how can that
> god not be
> external to nature?
> The xtian god created the universe, it didn't become
> the universe.
> I agree Plato's was not external but the xtian god must
> be.
>
> John Thornton
>
>
>
>
> Chris Doss wrote:
> > I hate to break this to you, but the Christian god is
> not conceived of as external to nature, given that he
> created it. Neither is Plato's, of which nature is a dim
> reflection.
> >
> > --- On Sat, 2/14/09, Shane Mage
> <shmage at pipeline.com> wrote:
> >
> >> No deity need have anything to do with it, and a
> deity
> >> *external* to nature cannot conceivably have
> anything to do
> >> with it. All that is required is the proposition
> that the
> >> ultimate course of events takes form in the
> determining
> >> context of formal natural law. Einstein's
> phrase was an
> >> idiomatic expression of this (Platonic) concept.
> >> Sheldrake's suggestion of a
> "morphogenetic
> >> field" is another (nonmathematical)
> expression of that
> >> concept.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
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