[lbo-talk] Russian/Chechen/Ingush

Chris Doss lookoverhere1 at yahoo.com
Thu Jul 16 18:57:45 PDT 2009


Kadyrov is likely capable of this, but let us ponder: she is kidnapped in Chechnya. Rather than simply shooting her and throwing the body in a lake, Kadyrov decides to be extravagant and drags it hundreds of miles across the border, where he then deposits it in an easy-to-find location just outside of the capital city, with the documents identifying the person still on the body. Almost as if it was meant to be found and identified.

In so doing, he causes a media firestorm in his region and abroad. At the same time as he is conducting a power-grab in a neighboring republic in which he is highly controversial. A neighboring republic in which he decides to dump the body.

It's the perfect crime!

The fact of the matter is that she was operating in a violent, war-torn region inhabited by people with a warrior culture in which Kadyrov is highly popular. She could have pissed multitudes of people off. Hell I wouldn't be surprised if some young, macho, revenge-killing-obsessed (revenge killing is a Chechen and Ingush custom) Chechens who had had clan members killed by shaitainy read something she wrote, were pissed off, and decided to go on a vendetta.

Who knows?

--- On Thu, 7/16/09, C. G. Estabrook <galliher at illinois.edu> wrote:


> From: C. G. Estabrook <galliher at illinois.edu>
> Subject: Re: [lbo-talk] Russian/Chechen/Ingush
> To: lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org
> Date: Thursday, July 16, 2009, 9:02 PM
>     Estemirova murder:
> Kadyrov blamed
>     Human rights campaigner Natalia
> Estemirova was investigating
>     militiamen backed by President Kadyrov
> when she was dragged
>     from her home and shot dead
>     BY JACK BREMERFIRST POSTED JULY 16,
> 2009
>
> The 32-year-old strongman who runs Chechnya, President
> Ramzan Kadyrov, claimed "I don't kill women" when he was
> implicated in the 2006 murder of the Russian investigative
> journalist Anna Politkovskaya. No one in the field of human
> rights believed him, and today he is again the obvious
> suspect according to campaigners mourning the death of
> Politkovskaya's friend Natalia Estemirova.
>
> Oleg Orlov, chairman of Memorial, the Russian human rights
> group for whom Estemirova worked in the Chechen capital
> Grozny, documenting abuses by law enforcement agencies, said
> yesterday: "I know, I am sure of it, who is guilty for the
> murder of Natalia... His name is Ramzan Kadyrov."
>
> In a statement posted on Memorial's website, www.memo.ru,
> he claimed: "Ramzan already threatened Natalia, insulted
> her, considered her a personal enemy."
>
> The nature of the 50-year-old's death was brutal and
> unsubtle. She was dragged from her home in Grozny on
> Wednesday morning by four men, shouting to neighbours: "I'm
> being kidnapped", bundled into a van and driven off.
>
> Hours later, her body was found dumped on the main road
> near the village of Gazi-Yurt in neighbouring Ingushetia.
> She had been shot twice in the head.
>
> Estemirova, who leaves a 15-year-old daughter, was a close
> friend of Politkovskaya, collaborating with the journalist
> on several investigations into human rights abuses in
> Chechnya. Both were very open in their condemnation of
> President Kadyrov...
>
> Full article at
>
> http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/50728,news,human-rights-campaigner-natalia-
> estemirova-murder-fingers-point-at-president-ramzan-kadyrov
>
> Chris Doss wrote:
> > There's a big Interfax report on the murder with
> reactions from Memorial and
> > Kadyrov here: http://www.interfax.ru/politics/txt.asp?id=90382
> >
> > I'm not going to translate it, but a machine
> translation should give you the
> > gist.
> >
> > --- On Wed, 7/15/09, Chris Doss <lookoverhere1 at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> From: Chris Doss <lookoverhere1 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [lbo-talk]
> >> Russian/Chechen/Ingush To: lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org
> Date: Wednesday, July 15,
> >> 2009, 8:16 PM
> >>
> >> I just read an Interfax report of an Ingush
> politician saying this might be
> >> an attempt to spark off a conflict between the
> Chechens and the Ingush
> >> (more specifically, restart the conflict that
> occured in the early 90s when
> >>  Chechnya broke off from Ingushetia). Dunno
> how much truth there is in
> >> that, or even who the politician was.
> >>
> >> It is kind of odd that she was abducted in
> Chechnya and then quickly found
> >> in an easily discovered location in Ingushetia.
> Why the hell did they move
> >> her across the border?
> >>
> >> I'll get to work on the article!
> >>
> >> --- On Wed, 7/15/09, C. G. Estabrook <galliher at illinois.edu>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> From: C. G. Estabrook <galliher at illinois.edu>
> Subject: Re: [lbo-talk]
> >>> Russian/Chechen/Ingush To: lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org
> Date: Wednesday, July
> >>> 15, 2009, 7:57 PM I assume you mean the attack
> on Yevkurov.  It would be
> >>> a help.  There's not been much coverage
> here.  My Midwest public TV show
> >>> would be one of the few discussing it, I'm
> sure...  --CGE
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