[lbo-talk] Health care in German

Left-Wing Wacko leftwingwacko at gmail.com
Sat Jul 25 08:22:52 PDT 2009


Bill Moyer's Journal was excellent last night. His guests (Marcia Angell and Trudy Lieberman) outlined how and why the current dominant proposal is just a huge corporate welfare boondogle, that the public option is just going to be a dumping ground for the sickest and most expensive, and that single payer is the only rational answer.

http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/07242009/watch.html

On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 8:09 AM, Joanne Landy <joanne.landy at igc.org> wrote:


> In fact most Germans are insured by NON-PROFIT sickness funds. All insurers
> are highly regulated in a way that would be impossible to conceive of for
> giant corporate insurers like we have in the U.S. The German and French
> multi-payer largely non-profit highly regulated systems are brought up whem
> people try to argue that the for-profit horror of the U.S. system could be
> humanized by some reasonable regulation. That's a utopian dream.
>
> The sickness funds are deeply rooted in German history. There is no point
> in trying to import the same institutions here, out of the blue. We need a
> single payer system, sooner rather than later!
> --Joanne Landy
>
>
> At 10:23 AM 7/25/2009 -0400, you wrote:
>
> A nice short sweet description of the German healthcare system, which is
>> normally left out of the international anecdotal comparisons. It's a great
>> system, but it seems irreplicable. It's entirely funded by hundreds of
>> competing private for-profit healthcare companies. But the fact that
>> everyone involved is German seems to change everything:
>>
>> http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=91971406
>>
>> That and perhaps the power of having a long and nationally identifying
>> tradition. Universal healthcare is virtually as old as the German nation-
>> state (125 years), and much older than the current constitution.
>>
>> Michael
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