In Seattle there is an ordnance that the cops are supposed to HAVE to provide that at all times including having their name badge and number clearly visible at all times including when they are policing things like demos. Does it happen? Nope but I have noticed that a few officers ALWAYS have this info visible. Anyone want to guess ages and ethnicities of the ones who do identify themselves as required.
If this cop truly acted as trained it is more than time to have a national conversation about how cops are trained. Anyone want to take bets about whether the famous meeting over a beer will go anywhere near that?
DC
On 7/27/09, c b <cb31450 at gmail.com> wrote:
> shag carpet bomb shag
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>>^^^^^
>>CB: Also, it is not a crime to yell at a police officer in your house.
>>So, the arrest
>>was illegal. :>)
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> yeah. it is. they call it assault. if you wag your finger at them,
> they call it battery. it might not be de jure, but it is sure as shit
> de facto.
>
> ^^^^
> CB: Yes, your de jure/ de facto distinction seems correct to me. I
> have no idea what the results in court are of all cases of this type.
> Probably depends to some extent on the judges and, the economic status
> and race of the defendants (smile). Then the cops lie about what
> happened a lot of the time , I bet.
>
> The police, I think, sometimes do an arrest as a defensive move to
> avoid being charged with police misconduct. There were reports that
> Gates asked this officer for his name and badge number several times.
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> My impression is that most "disorderly conduct" ordinances should be
> struck down as unconstitutionally vague, at least as applied in many
> cases (fat chance).
>
> A reporter for a local progressive paper was recently convicted (!) of
> obstructing justice because she was taking pictures at the scene of a
> police chase that resulted in two deaths.
> ^^^^^
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> sociologically speaking, it boils down to this: the issue is about
> respect for the cops. if you show that you diss them, then how DARE
> you. you have shown that you dare disrespect their authority, to them,
> then you have no respect for the law. it's the same reason why they
> give cop killers the death penalty or harsher sentences. ditto if you
> hit, kick, bite a cop. bigger violation against a cop than citizen.
>
> ^^^^
> CB: Definitely. It's police acting as vigilantes.
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> shag
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