People ought to start reminding society and the police that they are supposedly public servants and they ought to start acting like it.
On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 12:29 PM, Dorene Cornwell <dorenefc at gmail.com>wrote:
> In other words, it may not be a crime to yell at a cop but apparently
> it's a crime to ask the cop for his name and badge number.
>
> In Seattle there is an ordnance that the cops are supposed to HAVE to
> provide that at all times including having their name badge and number
> clearly visible at all times including when they are policing things
> like demos. Does it happen? Nope but I have noticed that a few
> officers ALWAYS have this info visible. Anyone want to guess ages and
> ethnicities of the ones who do identify themselves as required.
>
> If this cop truly acted as trained it is more than time to have a
> national conversation about how cops are trained. Anyone want to take
> bets about whether the famous meeting over a beer will go anywhere
> near that?
>
> DC
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> On 7/27/09, c b <cb31450 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > shag carpet bomb shag
> >
> >>^^^^^
> >>CB: Also, it is not a crime to yell at a police officer in your house.
> >>So, the arrest
> >>was illegal. :>)
> >
> >
> >
> > yeah. it is. they call it assault. if you wag your finger at them,
> > they call it battery. it might not be de jure, but it is sure as shit
> > de facto.
> >
> > ^^^^
> > CB: Yes, your de jure/ de facto distinction seems correct to me. I
> > have no idea what the results in court are of all cases of this type.
> > Probably depends to some extent on the judges and, the economic status
> > and race of the defendants (smile). Then the cops lie about what
> > happened a lot of the time , I bet.
> >
> > The police, I think, sometimes do an arrest as a defensive move to
> > avoid being charged with police misconduct. There were reports that
> > Gates asked this officer for his name and badge number several times.
> >
> > My impression is that most "disorderly conduct" ordinances should be
> > struck down as unconstitutionally vague, at least as applied in many
> > cases (fat chance).
> >
> > A reporter for a local progressive paper was recently convicted (!) of
> > obstructing justice because she was taking pictures at the scene of a
> > police chase that resulted in two deaths.
> > ^^^^^
> >
> > sociologically speaking, it boils down to this: the issue is about
> > respect for the cops. if you show that you diss them, then how DARE
> > you. you have shown that you dare disrespect their authority, to them,
> > then you have no respect for the law. it's the same reason why they
> > give cop killers the death penalty or harsher sentences. ditto if you
> > hit, kick, bite a cop. bigger violation against a cop than citizen.
> >
> > ^^^^
> > CB: Definitely. It's police acting as vigilantes.
> >
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> >
> > shag
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