[lbo-talk] The myth of homophobia

Philip Pilkington pilkingtonphil at gmail.com
Sun Mar 1 17:21:14 PST 2009


On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 1:10 AM, Matthias Wasser <matthias.wasser at gmail.com>wrote:


> On 3/1/09, Philip Pilkington <pilkingtonphil at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 12:05 AM, James Heartfield <
> > Heartfield at blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> >> Philkington:
> >>
> >> > I don't buy it. First off, in my opinion every
> >> > "psychological" reaction is
> >> > constituted or at very least given its meaning by some sort
> >> > of "social"
> >> > force.
> >>
> >> you will be saying God is real next
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> >
> >
> > That was a joke, right? My irony detector sometimes proves a little
> lacking
> > in sensitivity around here. Just to point out, if you weren't, one of the
> > first to come up with this idea was Nietzsche...
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> He _might_ be accusing you of uncritical social determinism, whereas
> we we enlightened contemporary people have recognized that
> such-and-such is biologically innate, et cetera.
>
> In any event, "or at very least given its meaning by" makes the
> statement trivially true, doesn't it? The meaning of everything is
> socially determined.
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Yeah, of course, meaning is socially determined becuase its constituted through language and language is shared/social. I thought at least that was an "acceptable" position to hold.



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