[lbo-talk] Recipe for "privatizing" schools

Wojtek S wsoko52 at gmail.com
Wed Nov 11 07:24:41 PST 2009


[WS:} so you think that gang members, drug dealers and violent offenders create a good learning environment in schools?

Wojtek

On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 9:52 PM, shrill.polemic <shrill.polemic at gmail.com>wrote:


> Wha? Students who don't test well are "bad kids"? Rubbish.
>
> shrill
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 8:17 PM, Wojtek S <wsoko52 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > [WS:] But that is the whole point, no? Schools do not "fix" children as,
> > say, mechanics fix cars. It is children who do the learning, and schools
> > merely facilitate the process. So if the peer pressure has detrimental
> > effect on leaning, kicking out "bad kids" will have a positive effect on
> > learning, no?
> >
> > I do not understand why there is so much insistence in this country that
> > everyone must go to school that offers the same curriculum to everyone.
> >
> > Wojtek
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 10:31 AM, shrill.polemic <
> shrill.polemic at gmail.com>wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 8:59 AM, Wojtek S <wsoko52 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > For that reason, I am really "on the fence" on this issue. On the one
> >> hand,
> >> > I think that the one-size-fits-all philosophy behind public education
> >> > sucks, and charter schools do offer an antidote to it. Otoh, I do
> >> support
> >> > teachers and thier unions, and I think charter schools would be very
> >> > detrimental to both.
> >> >
> >> > Wojtek
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >> In Chicago, charter schools represent another successful effort by the
> >> Daley administration to privatize public resources and bust a strong
> >> union.
> >>
> >> On an optimistic note, 3 Chicago charter schools were recently
> >> organized although not by the Chicago Teachers Union -
> >>
> >>
> >>
> http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/district-299/2009/10/catastrophe-or-opportunity-chicagos-first-unionized-charter-school-contract.html
> >>
> >> The claims that charter schools offer a better education is
> >> questionable to say the least. In Illinois, the easiest way to boost
> >> test scores at a charter school is to simply kick out the kids that
> >> aren't testing well.
> >>
> >> shrill
> >>
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