[lbo-talk] the fantasy of being outside ideology

Alan Rudy alan.rudy at gmail.com
Sat Nov 21 13:56:42 PST 2009


Undefensively (this time ;-} )... I guess I shoulda asked what CB meant by public ed starting with the ed of ex-slaves in the face of all the stuff that came before under that moniker that we all know didn't serve the whole public. Angela's amazing. APR

On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 3:38 PM, shag carpet bomb <shag at cleandraws.com>wrote:


> i think you are being defensive. :) everything you say below is not an
> argument against charles' position. it is support for it.
>
> if you (general you, not you alan, you) can be blinded by a privileged
> position to think public was public and inclusive in 1840s and forget that a
> lot of folks were left out, then charles can also be blinded by his
> privileged position and not think about native americans or poor whites or
> even engage in racism against black -- internalized racism. I know. Adoph
> Reed thinks blacks should stop worrying about whether Oprah is racist. btw
> keep meaning to post this from angela. she wrote it when i accused charles
> of being a sexist and he accused me of being a racist. that is why he
> sometimes signs off as chaz -- as joking reference to that argument. :)
>
> angela is way better on identity politics than AR and WBM every imagined
> being. i am not smart enough to understand angela without reading her three
> times, but if you have to read her a lot to get it, i promise, it's really
> actually worth it.
>
>



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