On Sep 3, 2009, at 3:44 PM, Andy wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 3:01 PM, Shane Mage<shmage at pipeline.com> wrote:
>> back to the original language through several iterations. Hence
>> "modern"
>> physics' invention of "dark energy" and "dark matter"--entities
>> with much
>> less empirical basis than the epicycles of Ptolemaic astronomy.
> Aren't they mostly empirical -- fudge factors to account for too much
> apparent mass in the latter case, and then in the former case too-fast
> expansion to reconcile with the additional mass?
"fudge factor" is another name for empirical disconfirmation of the basic theory.
Shane Mage
> This cosmos did none of gods or men make, but it
> always was and is and shall be: an everlasting fire,
> kindling in measures and going out in measures."
>
> Herakleitos of Ephesos