> It's not about O'R -- it's about the media overall.
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well, but it has to apply to bill-o, right? doug's point is a good one, but
honestly, i can't watch fox and can barely watch any of the other networks,
either. i don't mind watching people argue. what i can't stand is watching
people be assholes. ok, and watching people suck. here i go back again to
stewart and his visit to Crossfire back in the day: it's not debate. here's
maybe where noam has a point, but if so it's a point stewart made better,
maybe. the question for me is the extent to which these engagements do
anything other than reinforce people's existing beliefs. debate should be
opportunities to change thinking. it's not clear that these "debates" ever
are. people already know what the answers are. they're just looking for
their team to score the point.