Jim Davis Ozark Bioregion, USA Planet Gaia
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> From: Max Sawicky <sawicky at verizon.net>
> To: lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org
> Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 10:14:48 AM
> Subject: Re: [lbo-talk] Obama?
>
> BHO's no tax/bb syndrome is a huge problem. I've been saying that forever.
>
> Putting everybody in Medicare -- which I favor -- seems like a
> daunting exercise too.
> No doubt all the current arrangements would need to be revisited.
> Plus the administration
> would have to expand, a lot. Eventually it would save money.
>
> Rolling the cost of the whole U.S. health care system into one or two
> programs would make the growth explicit and generate pressure to
> economize. This would be a good problem, as opposed to bad one, but
> it wouldn't be an easy problem.
>
> My ten second rap on controlling health care costs is that you have to
> attack providers, rather than reduce care. Cheaper administration,
> prevention, medical records, etc. don't solve the problem.
>
>
> >>
> > But what about that *old* "gigantic reporting/reimbursement system" known as
> > Medicare? When I switched from private insurance to Medicare I experienced
> > no disruption at all. Of course, if everyone were to be brought under it
> > Medicare would need to improve incrementally it's coverages and
> > reimbursement rates. Which in any case it should do today, yesterday no
> > longer being possible. If everyone were brought under an improved Medicare
> > the tax system (now an even greater disgrace to the human race than when JC
> > made his immortal comment) would indeed have to be revised drastically in
> > order to recapture the private-insurance money now wasted on bureaucracy and
> > profits and "executive" loot.
> >
> > Obama, with his no-tax-increases/balanced-budget obsession is clearly an
> > enemy of such change.
> > He is also, as his Repugnicon heckler said, a liar. The question though is
> > which statement is a lie: that his plan will not cover any illegal
> > immigrants (the one Mr. Wilson called him on) or that under his plan no
> > person will be left to suffer and die because of lack of health insurance?
> >>
> >> On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 6:33 PM, Chuck Grimes wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, 2009-09-10 at 12:48 -0700, ken hanly wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> How did he rat out the CBC? I thought that Obama might take a moment to
> >>>> correct the constant misrepresentation of the Canadian system on US TV ads.
> >>>>
> >>>> Is it even true that a single payer system would disrupt the health care
> >>>> people already have, except perhaps to make it cheaper and more efficient?
> >>>> It would certainly disrupt the vested interests that make the US system
> >>>> so expensive and inefficient.
> >>>
> >>> Is it true single payer would distrupt...? No. You`re right. That went
> >>> straight passed me. I missed that. What a slime.
> >>>
> >
> > Shane Mage
> >
> >> This cosmos did none of gods or men make, but it
> >> always was and is and shall be: an everlasting fire,
> >> kindling in measures and going out in measures."
> >>
> >> Herakleitos of Ephesos
> >
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